Discipline
Nobody Tells You This About Discipline
Most people wait to feel motivated. Sandeep explains why that is the exact reason they stay stuck, and what discipline really asks of you once the excitement is gone.
In this conversation
People do not fail because they are incapable. They fail because they never tell themselves the truth. That is how this episode opens, and the rest of the conversation earns the line. Sandeep Sinha grew up in a middle-class Indian home where two things were non-negotiable: education and discipline. His father served in the CBI, India's central investigation agency, and the discipline in that house was not a lecture, it was the weather.
Sandeep divides life into ten-year buckets, each with its own influence: his mother taught bonding and integrity in the first decade, his father taught discipline in the second, teachers carried the third. He is candid about the failures inside that story too, including doing badly enough in his first year of engineering to see red marks on his results, and what pulled him out of it.
The center of the episode is a distinction most people never make. Motivation is the launch fuel: it gets the rocket off the ground. Discipline is what actually crosses the line. His example is the January gym resolution: motivation carries you for six or seven days, and if discipline has not taken over by then, the six-pack stays a resolution.
The story that makes it stick is the British cycling team of the 1950s and 60s, a club full of motivated riders that never won anything until a coach stopped looking at effort and started fixing small things: seat height, braking, posture, process. One small change at a time, and within a couple of years they were winning everything. The problem was never the players. It was the process.
For young viewers there is homework. Read Atomic Habits by James Clear, start with a habit as small as making your bed, and understand that no university will teach you how to handle difficult people or your own failures. Those lessons only come the hard way, and this conversation is a head start on both.
Key moments
- 0:00Why people actually fail
- 1:35Meet Sandeep Sinha
- 3:23The influences that shape each decade of a life
- 7:21Failing his first year of engineering
- 8:52Why no single habit makes you disciplined
- 10:45What success means, and how the answer changes
- 13:22What no college will ever teach you
- 15:11The one book he tells every teenager to read
- 17:14Motivation vs discipline: the six-pack test
- 19:18The British cycling team that fixed everything
What you'll take away
- Why waiting to feel motivated is the exact reason people stay stuck
- What discipline really demands once the excitement is gone
- A first move that makes starting far easier
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0:00People don't fail because they're incapable. They fail because they never tell themselves the truth. We live in a world obsessed with shortcuts, motivation hacks, and overnight success stories. But the real truth that nobody wants to talk about is that growth demands discomfort, discipline, and the willingness to confront the parts of yourself you would rather ignore. Today's conversation isn't about perfection. It's about the moments that break you,
0:37the habits that build you, and the philosophies that quietly decide who you're going to become. It's about the support you accept, the failure the failures you survive, and the discipline you choose when no one's watching you. This isn't a highlight highlight reel. This is the part of a journey where excuses fall apart, honesty becomes a tool, and lessons learned in private shape how
1:06you act in public. So, as we dive think less about who you have been and more about who you're willing to become. Because the truth is simple. Life will only rise to you when you meet that level of discipline, your resilience, and your willingness to grow. I'm Vikrant and I'll be your host in this episode for Podcast Leader. Hope you have fun watching this episode
1:35and today, let's welcome my guest, Mr. Sandeep. Hello everyone. I'm Sandeep Sinha. So, for those who don't know about you, would you want to just give a short introduction of yourself like where you're from and stuff? Sure. First of all, thanks for inviting me and giving me this opportunity to [clears throat] talk about talking about myself. I would say I'm Sandeep Sinha. I
2:02been in US for more than 12 years now. I go back and see my childhood being in a middle-class family, having a decent schooling. Um One thing I would really uh give credit to my parents is in my home from the childhood itself, there is two things being given a lot of value, which is education and discipline. So, you'll see what I saw it in my parents, how they
2:32are managing it. It is helping me like to believe it. >> Yeah. Uh the those habits are and I they call it down as atomic habits. These are really very great and we should do it. Um so, in this podcast, um we'll be having more conversation. We'll discuss more in detail with some example. We'll see how youth like you >> Yeah. should focus
2:58what to do. Yeah. Everyone needs to know this at some point in their lives and it's better to know early than late. So, hope you watch this video. This is the basic, right? Who were the biggest influences in your life and why? Yes, very good question. Each phases of life will have a different person. Uh Your parent definitely play a very big
3:23role. >> Yeah, like childhood. >> the real influencer if you see, correct? Parents are the biggest, but every phase of the life will have different uh influencer. If you need if I divide my life in a 10-year Yeah. >> Okay? Every 10-year bucket um the first 10 year, I do believe my mother. Mom. >> Uh because I learned a lot. Uh she was a homemaker.
3:48Um and I learned a lot how to make the bonding correct Yeah. And that's what I learned from her. Uh the bonding thing, how to make sure that everybody is being respected Yeah. >> integrity. Those things I learned from mother. Those That's very important. I mean, you need bonds in life, right? You can't just survive all yourself alone. Yeah. Age from 10 to 20 is very very critical.
4:14What you're what you want to be in the life, that's then you're going to decide. So, basically like teenagers, young people like me. Yes. Yeah. >> And you are at that phase right now. >> So, everything decides from here. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. I'm telling you like you are at the right phase. Whatever you want to be in the life, this is the time
4:36you have to start. If you my father he is like very disciplined. He was from CBI for few years, then he I learned the discipline from him, how to be disciplined. A CBI agent, tell me. >> How How to be how he How to be focused, correct? How those who don't know about CBI, back in India there is like Oh yeah. You you
5:00have FBI in US. You have CBI, Central Bureau of Investigation. They do the investigation of the cases which are not um directly managed by the police. They need more help, more detailed investigation. That's where CBI got involved. So, my father has served there. So, that thing was there in my father. So, he discipline I learned from him. Uh uh and then my teachers, few of my
5:27teachers have definitely helped me to think about it, like what I should be coming in. And I think that's the phase >> [clears throat] >> though I was kind of a mediocre kid in terms of study, but I can tell you that the phase I learned a lot about reading habit and all. Because of my father, he has a habit of reading.
5:48Oh well, that's important. That's important. >> I'm so As a >> So, here I will stop myself. Yeah. >> Now, as I said that I'm trying to be candid. Yeah. >> Very candid. Now, you are in that bucket. Yeah. Yeah. If I will ask but tell me about you are in that bucket. Yeah. What is your who influenced you more? How you were getting influenced from
6:11whom all you are getting influenced? Um I say my dad for because first of all, he gave me the opportunity to run this podcast, which is a pretty big milestone in my life. Yeah. And he has taught me a lot about how to deal with pressure and in just general stay disciplined around people and accept them. And if they're not your people, then just ignore them,
6:34which is like important, of course, cuz like you don't want to be hanging out with the wrong people. Right? So, my dad taught me a lot of that and he told he told me to choose kindness over violence, which I absolutely love and hope find it more. And I just like my father, so he's always my idol. But yeah. That's very important, you know? Father
7:00is definitely playing a very very crucial role in anyone's life. Kind of a bookish person, used to read a lot of book. I got it from him. Uh he was very good at studies. He When I started my higher studies and all, went to college. I think that's the time I do see that a lot of thing has changed on me because I
7:21went out of house, home. I was staying with friends. There I got to know a lot of thing and it will be a like eye-opener. >> First year I was very bad. I did very bad in my engineering first year. Oh. >> Even I got some red number in my engineering first year because of like I was simply overwhelmed. And I was really like it
7:43was I was not able to uh cope up like that. >> Yeah. I got some good teacher in college. Uh that helped me a lot and I started doing very good in the study in my engineering college. Uh and that helped me. So, that's where teacher your the first influencer is your mother. Next is definitely your father. Third one is your teacher. Mother,
8:06father, teacher. >> Teacher, yeah. So, with that phase and you are in the professional world, some influencer, try to see how they are doing it, how they are coping up. There are a lot of people what kind of people you have to follow, right? Yeah. Very very important. Um to follow a correct Respect everyone. >> Yeah. Make sure you're like using your time
8:26wisely and just stay disciplined. Exactly. Yeah. So, talking about discipline, what was one habit like that like influenced you in the direction you like your life went? The the way I would like to answer is you cannot get disciplined by just one habit. Yeah. Put himself like when the kid is like 6 7 when he start understanding your thing parents would give start
8:52>> Yes. He's laughing. No no no. You want to say something? Yeah, I broke my character when you said 6 7. Yeah. Like I've seen so many kids on the internet go 6 7. Yeah. My bad. >> Oh yeah. Discipline is the way you leave your life. Something if you are disciplined is like if you suppose that today somebody will tell you take this book,
9:13read it. Correct? Yeah. You will read two days and after that you'll oh my god, it's so boring. I'll close it. That's where you are not So, discipline and consistency should go together. You need to keep up that motivation to be disciplined and consistent. So, Same. It's not that one habit which can make you disciplined. It is like whatever you're doing in life.
9:36If you make a plan that okay, from tomorrow I will be reading 15 minute of a novel or a book, whatsoever. Irrespective of what else thing has happened. You have to. I have to. >> And you have to force yourself initially. Because you So, you what what happened? You have to condition your mind. Yeah. >> Right? You have to condition. You have
9:59to send a message to your mind. No, I will study. I will do at least open the book. Yeah. >> Read one page so that your consistency is maintained. Just import two or three words. Consistent, discipline, and time. What do you like if you were to give like the youth like one piece of advice about just discipline, just like a basic overview?
10:22Like what would you say to them? For youth like you? >> Yeah, for just discipline. So, whatever you are doing, you do it. Like nobody's stopping you to do it, right? >> It's just like be consistent. Yeah. So, for youth, whatever they're starting, don't break the chain. Keep going. Keep going. Keep going. Like when you said you'll get it like success. Yeah. How would you define
10:45success that's like Success is also for everyone success is different. >> Different. Success means you are satisfied with what you're Yeah. You are also looking at your family. Right? I find myself very very fortunate that I got all the best son, I believe. He and like my wife is very very supportive. The two things these two person Now, once you are in that phase where you are
11:16career is one thing, your your family, your kids, your success definition changes. Yeah. If you come back home, you see them smiling. You see them happy. You will you you forget all your tension. Yeah. Now, my my definition of success is I'm doing good at my career. Can be done. Keep doing it. But it doesn't mean that for that I should sacrifice my family time.
11:43>> Yeah. And I should sacrifice my kids time. And that's my definition of success. >> But money is definitely a very big factor, but money is not the only factor. Then now, being a youth, you tell me what is success mean? Um success, basically, there's the more emotional side and then there's a more logical side. >> Mhm. But I'm going to talk about the
12:07emotional side first. When I mean success, just make my parents happy and proud of me. Yeah. And when I think logically, um I say just make like achieve something like a medal or get good grades like any average middle schooler. And then make myself happy. Yeah. >> Cuz Just that's the definition. That's why if you go and ask a 10-year kid, his definition of success will be
12:31different. He's going to probably say like, "I want to get a billion lollipops." >> Yeah. And uh that's my success story. I do a lot of operating, correct? So, I I got some influence from somewhere. So, I do leave life in my 10-year bucket. I plan it. Okay, for next 10 year, let's start this business. For next 10 years, let's do that. Yeah.
12:53>> Um so, as I said like for this 10 year, my success definition is keep growing. If you had to share one life like life lesson with the world that you believe everyone has to learn something the hard way, what would it be? Um there are few things which your good college, good university will never teach, correct? They can get good strategy
13:22um going to those university. They can get good planning um opportunities and all. Um Um one thing which they will not learn and I do know that it comes with the hard way is dealing with the difficulties. Um giving an example, um there is some an ID company where something is going on. You know, you hire 10 people. Out of 10, might be two people are very
13:51difficult to manage. Yeah. Your college will not teach you how to Manage the difficult person. Yeah, I think Dealing with the difficulties is I believe um and sticking to the time. For leaders, how to motivate your team when you when you have some failures in life. Correct? Yeah. Because you cannot skip from failure. It will come. It will come at some time.
14:19>> come. So, that will also not It comes as a hard way. Yeah. Dealing with the failures. How How you will motivate your team when things are These few things like dealing with the failures, difficulties, and handling a difficult player in Taking the failure. When I say failure, again failure is a different meaning for different person, correct? Yes. Somebody is doing anything and if it
14:46he's not able to do on time, it might be devastating for him. Yeah. Um Being a leader, they will not learn from institute or company. But they will come with the time and come with experience. I First of all, I'm not a good reader and I want to read more. But any books that you would recommend any young kids who want to like be a
15:11leader and want to stay disciplined, are there any books that you >> Oh, yeah. So, I think James Clear, I I recall the name correct. Um they call it Atomic Habit. Atomic Habit. Yeah. The first three chapter is book. For you like of your age, first thing should be that you go ahead and read that book. Small habit, 1% improvement daily. Is that
15:34>> That's make a huge change in your life. Um how it happens like suppose that for a kid, if he's waking up daily morning, let's make sure he cleans his bed. Yeah. That is one small habit every every day he has to do. >> >> Yes. I need to do that. So, Yes. So, for you, do this book will give you this kind of the scenario, correct?
15:56Small small habit. As I at the beginning also in the beginning of this podcast, I was telling that it cannot be that this you do this and you will be successful. It has to be like collection. >> Collection. Yeah, this all kind of like ties up cuz like you got to make these habits. Yeah. And then to make those continuing, you need
16:15consistency. And that's part of getting a better That's part of being more disciplined. Yes. So, like it's like a big circle of like life philosophy. So, that was your life and my life. Um so, let's talk about life philosophy, the main part of this podcast. Um you want We're going to talk about discipline, motivation, failure, success, and support. And hope you guys learn a lot from this
16:42video. I mean, I truly learned quite some things about discipline like just from 10 minutes of talking. Yeah. And this That's why I love podcasts cuz I can learn from people who have experienced things. And I should I'm so Talking about life philosophy, right? How do you see the relationship between discipline and motivation and like the long-term progress? These two words, discipline motivation,
17:14is This goes out Um I'm giving you example. I will start with example. >> Yeah. You are motivated to build a six-pack. Suppose somebody is motivated, "Oh, this 2026, let's make a resolution. I'll make a six-pack." Six-pack. Yes. That's his motivation. Yeah. He will start doing it. He will go to gym January 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th. Because he's motivated, he's highly energized. He'll
17:43go and do it. But after that, if he's not disciplined, then what will happen? Body No, after 6 7 days, he will stop going. Yeah. Right? And that's where I say both discipline and motivation is like it has to go in parallel. Example. You know Virat Kohli. Yes. He is so disciplined. He is so disciplined. His father expired. He went to the ground next day and he
18:11played the game. Yes. Yuzvendra Singh also, his father recently just passed away and he was at the game, fully passionate. And I think that's like he's very disciplined and motivated for the team. Two words since you asked about motivation and discipline. Motivation will give you kick. Right? Yeah. >> Like I want to >> start up. get topper in the class. I want to be topper
18:36in the class. Or I want to go and climb the Mount Everest or anything like that. That's motivation. Yeah. It should be there. If it is motivation is not there, means you are missing something. Yeah. So, basically, it's just like the start up launch like when you're going to Mars in a spaceship, right? >> Yes. So, like if you don't have the
18:55fuel, you're not going to run it to Mars. >> Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So, like I think that's for those who like astronomy. Oh, yeah. Rocket ships. Yeah. That's for you. So, discipline And then discipline is where it will it will take you there. So, if you need to cross the line, you need to be disciplined. To kick off, you need to be motivated. But to cross
19:18the line, you need to be disciplined. That's the difference. Now, I will give you one more example about that. Yes. There is a British cycling club. Long time I'm talking about 1950s, '60s. >> Okay. Yeah. There was the British cycling club. I read it somewhere. That club was never doing good. Um and then one day, they hired someone as coach. Like I can see why they are not doing
19:43good. Now, that they see when the coach came, he see that okay, players are motivated. They wanted to do good, but they are not doing good. There is something is missing. Missing. And that might be Yes. Now, what happened? He said, "Okay, couple of things. We cannot just do an overnight Today we are not doing good, and tomorrow it will not happen that we'll
20:06sleep and next day morning everything will be great. >> Yeah, I'm going to get six packs and I'm going to just skip gym forever. >> >> Uh so, it will not happen. Now, what So, he started looking into and that's what I said. Yeah. >> Small small habits. Started observing everything. Discipline. He make the changes. Small small changes like he looked at
20:29cycle height the seat size, your cycle different system and all. Yeah. >> And each thing he did is changes little little bit. It took some time. But after a year and so, that club started doing good. This they win all the tournament of cycling in the UK. It happened just with discipline. They focused on small habit. Uh when I say small habit, it's like small small
20:57changes. Correct. What they are doing it wrong in terms of like their bike or their riding or the way they are sitting, the way they are braking. They started focusing on each and everything. And when each everything is collide or intervene Uh they came together. They started doing good. Correct. Then it is not with the player, it is more with the process.
21:21>> >> Yeah. >> And it came. That's what they were motivated to win, but they were losing those discipline. Correct. They found someone good who helped them to identify the gap. So And that's in our life we need a good influencer. They will help us to identify the gap because if we are doing it, we'll not know what we are doing wrong.
21:44Yeah. >> The coach helped them to identify the gap. Mhm. And they started making the change even though they identified the gap. Took time. Correct. They started making one change at a time. He did the same thing. And team started doing And for next couple of years, the club won championship. Like they won the championship because of those changes. Again, it takes a lot of time. A lot of
22:06time. Yeah. Um so, talking about like motivation and discipline, if look let's just look at jobs like CEOs, right? Yeah. So, like how can CEOs or just like leadership roles use discipline and motivation in their lives? Like as a leader. Whoever is the CEO or those the board of leaders they are very disciplined, one thing. Very focused. And they know to identify the people who will work for
22:41them. I cannot do everything. Correct. Yes. >> So, they know how to judge the people. How to identify the correct people to do the correct work. Identifying a gap first thing. Identifying the correct resource to fix the gap. Keep team motivated. So, if there's people out there looking for jobs, they should showcase themselves as they they're disciplined Yes. and they're good workers, that's
23:11they consistent. So, like there's like the other people who are like you know, picking them can see their potential maybe. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So, like for those who are looking jobs for you >> That's yeah. You don't need to be like Everybody cannot be a like a player. >> Yeah, like I'm not a Harvard graduate >> Yeah. who's going to work who took 500
23:33billion computer courses in the world class teachers. Yeah. You need consistency to get jobs. Especially >> to show that you're focused. You need to show that you are disciplined. You need to show that you know what you're doing. Rightly like the B players who don't also know that what he is doing. And then you need to know that when to raise the
23:55hand. Yes, boss, this is not going well. I need some help. Yeah. Basically, yes. Everybody has their own ideas and and the part the leaders do is they make sure they're disciplined and motivated so all those ideas come together. Yeah.
Questions this episode answers
What is the difference between motivation and discipline?
Sandeep's framing: motivation gives you the kick to start, like fuel at a rocket launch, but discipline is what carries you across the line when the excitement is gone. Both have to run in parallel. Motivation without discipline is a gym membership abandoned by January 8th.
Why do New Year resolutions fail?
Because they run on motivation alone. In the episode's example, the motivated person trains hard for six or seven days and then stops, since nothing conditioned the mind to continue without the initial excitement. The fix is small, forced, repeated actions until they stop needing force.
What book does Sandeep recommend for teenagers?
Atomic Habits by James Clear. Small habits and one percent daily improvements compound into massive change, starting with something as simple as making your bed every morning.
What can't school or college teach you?
Dealing with difficulties, managing difficult people, and surviving failure. Sandeep argues universities teach strategy and planning, but handling the hard parts of real life only comes with experience, which is exactly why he came on this show to share his.
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